AngelaAnn

Hi All,

I know that the cost isn't too much of a difference between U.S. and OCC--I live in San Diego, so for me, it is not too much trouble going down there. I just feel like Dr. Castillo's demeanor wasn't very attentive...or something. I am glad that people are happy with their results, because I know that the person that did Nurse Martin's work doesn't work for the OCC anymore...I do know that I never had a problem with Dr. O (except maybe that I see him as a ghost doctor) and Dr. Martinez and Dr. So are fantastic!! And so were the nurses!!

Hello,

I am considering having some plastic surgery procedures done at The Ariel Center...starting with a thigh lift/liposuction. My question is: has anyone had any procedures with the CURRENT plastic surgeon at OCC? How was the experience and are you happy with the results? I ask because I don't know if there was a cultural/language barrier or what, but when I had a consultation, he was very fixated on a tummy tuck...that is an area that doesn't bother me. Has anyone had anything other than a tummy tuck with the CURRENT plastic surgeon??

Thank you very much for any information!

I revised from band to sleeve in March 2011. I was alone for my revision and I was glad because nobody bothered me for the whole 5 days! You kinda feel like shit anyway, so there isn't much to get bored about...I think the Lucerna had about 5 English stations on the t.v. I walked around the pool, rested, ate some popsicles, tried to drink water, and watched the tube. The van picks you up every day to get the drain checked and brings you back to the hotel. The Lucerna has really nice bedding, too. Anxiety is normal--I cried hysterically on the OR table 'cause of nerves. Dr. Ortiz and his staff know what they are doing!! You will be fine and the sleeve is soooo much better than the band!!!

Just wanted to add--For me, the sleeve is awesome and I am very happy with it!

Hi, I had a revision from band to sleeve in March 2011. I only lost 47 pounds with the band and never got below 202 working out 4 days a week and following a diet. My band was too tight at one point and after that, I could never find "the sweet spot"...either too tight or too loose. Right now, I am down to 188, the lowest I have been since I was 14. (I'm 31 now.) I am a "slow loser" as I have some metabolic issues, but it's coming off slowly and I'm down to the last 18 pounds.

1-Does the Sleeve really keep your appetite in check? (Supposidly removes some of the Gherin hormones produced by the stomach)?

Yes! I had no physical hunger for the first 6 months, now, it has come back a bit but it is soooo much more manageable now.

2-Does the restriction stay consistent throughout the day? (With the band I always had restriction in the morning, and by dinner could eat/overeat all I wanted).

I still sometimes struggle with head hunger, but I would say the restriction is more consistent, definitely the first couple months you can only eat about 1-2 ounces at a time while your sleeve heals. Now I eat about 4 ounces. Dense protein, I can eat about 2-3 ounces.

3-Does the sleeve stretch out--allowing you to eat just as much in a few months after the surgery? I never stretched out my stomach with the band, but that didn't stop me from staying overweight!

It "stretches" in the sense that after the swelling and such heal after the first 2-3 months you can eat a bit more, but not a huge amount. The sleeve doesn't stretch like a pouch can because most of the fundus, or stretchy part of the stomach is cut out so there is not much to stretch.

4-Does the Sleeve make you "BP" or Slime?

I have only PB'ed twice and it's different than with the band as food doesn't get stuck but if you overeat, you will definitely feel nauseous.

5-Does the sleeve have problems with certain types of foods? With the band, the stuff I was SUPPOSED to eat (veggies, salad, meat) were hard to get down/got stuck after only a few bites--leaving me hungry and frustrated, whereas mushy stuff just slid on through!!!

I have had no problems with any food except sometimes too much sugar will make me feel sick. It was sooo nice to eat veggies and salad and meat again as I couldn't eat it with the band for the last two years I had it.

Hi Linda!

I finally got to 199 this morning! Lowest I ever got with the band was 202. I'm losing super slowly, but at least I'm losing. 29 more pounds to go!

I am wondering why have so many jumped onto the Plication surgery vs. the VSG? The only difference I have found is the permanance of VSG. Your thoughts, your reasoning are needed. It is said if one has the question there is at least one other who has it as well. I thought it was a good topic to address.

Sincerely, Aksonflower

If you want a reply quickly and they have SOOOOO much helpful info. there--have you tried the obesity help forum? They have a VSG maintenance board that has a lot of veterans on it. I'm only three months out with the sleeve so I can't help you too much. I used to come to this forum a lot when I had the band, but there aren't too many VSG'ers here.

www.obesityhelp.com

Good Luck!

I had a revision from the band to VSG done in one surgery, so it is possible. I chose the VSG because I did want something permanent and there just wasn't enough research done on the plication for me. VSG has been around a long time. Good Luck in whatever you choose!

I would definitely go with the VSG then, generally you will know if you have a leak within the first 5 days--that is the number one complication with the sleeve. The OCC keeps your drain in for those five days specifically for that purpose. Dr. Ortiz has never had a leak with his sleeves because of the drain and the way they do the double stitching. Other than taking your vitamin, calcium, iron, and B-12, you shouldn't really need much follow up care. Just follow the post surgery diet and make sure you get in your protein, I still can't get all mine in from food alone, I still drink a protein drink every day--I, too like the Premier Protein from Costco. It has 30 grams in it.

Also, the first month sucks, but it does get better! It was hard to drink for a couple weeks after surgery and your taste buds change for a few weeks, too. It's really weird, plain water tasted bad to me...but that's what crystal light is for, I guess. LOL. Now, I'm good. Good Luck and if you have any questions, please feel free to send me a message.

Hi,

I am almost three months out with VSG--I had both my band and revision to VSG done by Dr. Ortiz. The care is excellent at the OCC, though word of warning: you will only see Dr. Ortiz for a split second before your surgery and then probably never again. Dr. So does most of the aftercare and he is awesome and patient and will answer all of your questions/concerns. The nursing staff is great, too. Dr. Ortiz/Martinez have never had a leak with any VSGs done so far and they use a 32f bougie size which is good 'cause it's the smallest one and you will probably have the most restriction from it.

I am a slow loser and definitely not the poster child for VSG--most people who are "virgins" to weight loss surgery lose A LOT of weight quickly, most getting to goal in less than a year.I also have thyroid issues, but overall, I am pretty happy. In 10 weeks, I have lost 24 lbs.--and just started working out, so hopefully that will help the loss. I also had a stall/plateau that lasted over three weeks. My restriction is pretty good, though I have a really long torso and I am tall, so I suspect that my sleeve can hold more than the average one.

Overall, I highly recommend the OCC and I would definitely go with VSG over plication--I didn't go with plication because there just wasn't enough research on it, but let me tell you that everyone that had surgery the day I did had the plication surgery. So, it's definitely popular.The Bypass surgery just wasn't for me either because of the malabsorbtion issues. Good luck with your decision and if you have any questions, feel free to ask!

Hi,

I had the same problems as you, had my band for almost three years and three months ago I revised to the VSG--gastric sleeve. I am 10 lbs. away from the lowest weight I ever got with the lapband which wasn't even under 200. The sleeve is soooooo much better! I love it.

I don't know how many the OCC has done...I went with the VSG sleeve revision from lapband, but I do know that the 5 days I was down there at the end of March no one had a lapband and I was the only one getting the sleeve...everyone else was getting the plication procedure done! There must have been at least 20 peeps (maybe more) over the five days getting it.

I was banded in 2003 and although I still have it in place, have had nothing but trouble with the ports for the first few years. My stomach looks like a war zone, I have so many scars! Now my band is only half full (2.0 cc) with hardly any restriction. Problem is that as soon as I get filled more than that, I have reflux etc. SO - like many of you here, I am hoping to get a revision surgery to either the gastric sleeve 0r the gastric plication.

What seems to work best after banding: a plication of the stomach, or the actual gastric sleeve (removal of most of the stomach)?

Any info would be appreciated!

Hi,

I went with the sleeve because I already had the lapband and the sleeve has been a long performed WLS. I think that if I hadn't already had the band, I may have gone with the plication. I am only 12 days out on the revision, but Dr. Ortiz and Dr. Martinez removed my band and did the sleeve all in one surgery. The recovery has been tough, but I'm starting to feel better now. Going back to the OCC next week for a post-op visit. If you have any specific questions, you can message me and I will try to answer them, but I am new to the sleeve.

Just wanted to add that I was down there for 5 days and everyone was there for plication--except for me and one lady having a lapband. So, it is an extremely popular surgery. If I hadn't started with a band, I would have probably gotten the plication, too. I was on the fence for awhile trying to decide. Good Luck! You'll love the OCC.

Just wondering how many folks out there had the GSP surgery over a year ago and how are they feeling, and is this working for them. Anyone out there actually gain the weight back again? I'm scheduled for GSP surgery in 2 weeks and a little nervous about the whole thing. How many men out there went through this, and how's it working for you? I'm excited at the prospect of looking at a mirror and being happy with what I see. I just hope this is as good as they make it sound.

The OCC has been doing the plication for over a year now-I am formerly a lapband patient of them, and I remember going last year for a fill and meeting the first guy to have the plication. As much as I love the OCC, I had the vertical sleeve revision because it has been around longer. It's the same concept as the plication, but they actually cut away the stomach. It's been around for two decades.

I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU WENT WITH THE SLEEVE ANGELA, KEEP US POSTED ON YOUR PROGRESS

Hi Pammie,

I remember you from when I got my band in '08--hope everything is going well for you. I am only nine days out from the gastric sleeve, and I'll tell you this...it ain't as easy a recovery as the band was for me. I think it's because you have "instant" restriction, along with swelling. I really have to concentrate on getting liquids down. It's getting easier, though. Lost 12 pounds in a week, so I guess I can't complain too much. Thanks for checking in on me!

I'm new here and am reading posts to see what I can do. I don't have a band but a revision RNY bypass. I am curious about the sleeve since I have regained my weight. Didn't know of the sleeve (don't think it was available in 2002 when I had my surgery) and am curious about it. The band I have some knowledge of but didn't know the issue of slipping.

Hi Suzette,

I don't think that you can go from bypass to sleeve, because they've already cut most of your stomach? I just had the sleeve done from lapband, where they cut 80% of the stomach out and then staple it into a "banana" shape. There is no rerouting of the intestines. I do think however that you can revise to the lapband, they just place it over your pouch, I believe. The newer models of lapband have a higher success rate for not slipping. The OCC has not had one slip since they've been using this model of band. I had an older band that they don't use anymore. Good Luck!

Not to sound dumb, but what is the revision? And good luck with it. Let me know how it goes..

No problem. I went from lapband to sleeve--had the band removed and the sleeve done in one surgery, revised to sleeve, so to speak.

I've had NO regrets.

I just marked by 2 year point, so I've seen a lot of info pass through this forum.

I've only seen failure due to poor personal decisions, not anything related to the band.

Not all failure is due to "poor personal decisions." Sometimes there are technical failures, too.

Hey,

I had a complete unfill before I had revision surgery and I have had the same symptoms as you, especially the GAS! It sucks. But, revision tomorrow so we'll see.

Hello,

I am a newbie to this forum, this is my first entry. I am considering having the lapband surgery and I cannot say I am without fear and reservation. I have battled my weight for far too long and I'm not getting any younger. Part of my fear is failure. What if it doesn't work for me, what if I have terrible complications, how will I cope with having a Dr in another country when I need to see him???? So many questions.

The OCC comes highly recommended by a friend who has the lapband herself. She has nothing but praise for the OCC.

I guess my first step is to contact the OCC....wish me luck

Feather

I agree with the OCC issue-they're pretty awesome. Have you looked into the sleeve or plication? I'm having my band removed at the end of the month, it was a great tool for the first year, until it got too tight. Hasn't been the same since, and now have a slip. And regained 30 lbs. Don't get me wrong, some people don't have complications and are successful, but I really wish the OCC had offered the plication procedure in '08. I probably would have gone with it. I have spent a couple grand in fills and un-fills over the last 2.7 years. I do know that my band isn't used down there anymore--it has a high rate for slips. But, you may want to check out some other options. Good Luck!

Hi!

I just wanted to know if anyone had their gallbladder removed the same time they had surgery? I'd post this to the plication forum, but this page seems slightly more active with replies. Thank you in advance!

That happened to me. I was overfilled and had to go have an unfill.

Hello All!

Ever since I had my band completely unfilled two weeks ago, I have had immense gas pain/bloating every time I eat. I don't know if this is because I have a dynamic slip (where the pouch poofed up over the band) or what! Has anybody else had problems like this or has advice? I start the three weeks of liquids prior to revision surgery in a few days, so I'm hoping that helps, but until then, I guess I'm eating bland food? Any Advice Appreciated!