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My trainer told me today that I need to be drinking 4 protein shakes a day (8oz each) now that my band is so tight to eat during the day. He explained how if we load up our evening meal with all our protein that our body can not process it, so then it is stored as fat and cant be burned.

I always knew I needed to eat 4-5 times a day, but honestly I haven't dont that since the band. I eat 3 times and then a couple snacks. He told me to stay away from the snacks. Drink these, or Muscle Milk light (premades) for atleast 3 weeks and I will see a difference in the scale.

He explained how it is important NOT to eat sugar. So, your body goes into Ketosis and you lose the weight. He told me that he was sure that is why I have plateued.

I was very frustrated because I lost a few lbs on liquids the last couple weeks and this morning I weighed (after eating over the weekend) and I am up 2 lbs!!!!!

SO, I am going to do what he suggests and see.

This protein powder is awesome! It tastes like a milkshake. My husband got me the cookies and cream and I am freaking out! It is fabulous! I just had to share. Because I know all of us have protein drinks! No more drinking baby formula! I can't wait to try the other flavors!!

FYI...2 grams of sugar sweetend with Splenda.

https://www.topshapesupplements.com/syntha6...der-p-3521.html

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Hey Dana!

I did the "kick-start challenge" and I lost 4.8 lbs. I think it was because I drank no less than 3 Adkins Advantage shakes per day. I am going to try this protein powder, mainly because of your endorsement (thank you!), and because it is whey protein and not soy. I seriously had gas pain last week, and I am sure it is because of the soy in the shakes (especially the chocolate ones--waaah). I love the Adkin's shakes because they are delicious and pre-made, so the convenience of being able to take them to work is another reason why I chose them.

Thanks again for sharing the information. Can't wait to hear about a good loss this week.

Diana

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Dana, while I am glad you found a protein powder that you like (I like that one too), are you not eating solids in the day? Are you sure you are not too tight? I know you said you lost a couple lbs on liquids, but really our bands are designed to eat solids. With that said, I personally eat a liquid breakfast (juice and 1 cup of FF milk) because I work out right after waking and I can't workout right after food. But for the rest of the day, snacks and my meals, I eat solids only. I was like you at one point, relying on mostly liquids and I really didn't lose much. But once I started forcing myself to take the time to eat, protein first etc... just like they tell you, I was much more satisfied and lost (and am losing again) steadily. Also 4 protein shakes a day seems like so much to me. Aren't those like 220 calories each? That really will add up for you, calorie-wise. You might be better off trying to eat small meals as we are meant to.... Just adding my thoughts here. I am worried that you are too tight! It's just not worth it....

Karen

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Dana, while I am glad you found a protein powder that you like (I like that one too), are you not eating solids in the day? Are you sure you are not too tight? I know you said you lost a couple lbs on liquids, but really our bands are designed to eat solids. With that said, I personally eat a liquid breakfast (juice and 1 cup of FF milk) because I work out right after waking and I can't workout right after food. But for the rest of the day, snacks and my meals, I eat solids only. I was like you at one point, relying on mostly liquids and I really didn't lose much. But once I started forcing myself to take the time to eat, protein first etc... just like they tell you, I was much more satisfied and lost (and am losing again) steadily. Also 4 protein shakes a day seems like so much to me. Aren't those like 220 calories each? That really will add up for you, calorie-wise. You might be better off trying to eat small meals as we are meant to.... Just adding my thoughts here. I am worried that you are too tight! It's just not worth it....

Karen

Hey Karen,

Thanks for your concern for me, means a lot!

Well, I am working out alot so I am burning calories. BUT, I am only going to have this brand in the am before I leave the house. It is higher in calories, 198 per serving, 54 from fat. The Muscle Milk premades are 100 calories. I have tried eggs, oatmeal in the morning and on about the second or third bite I get the tightness in my chest. I had my third fill last monday, and I do not think it is too tight because by 3pm I can eat solid foods. If I have any removed I will be back where I was and I know I need restriction. As long as my food stays down, and I can eat comfortably after 2 or 3 pm, I am fine with that for the time being. I would like to get some more weight off. I can also tell my band has loosened since last Monday after the fill. So, I am going to do as he suggests and do the liquids during the day for 3 weeks, maybe by then I can get back to my protein for bfast. I am going to try 3 drinks instead of 4 though, I thought it may be excessive to have 4. (I just dont think I will be that hungry)

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Also, just to clarify, I I have not relied on all liquids until the last 2 weeks. I did the Kick Start Challenge and now I am tight so I am choosing to do it. It is important for everyone to know, I lost ALL my weight eating protein first, then carbs. But, for the last 7 weeks I have not lost. I definitely needed a fill. I feel it will loosen up a bit more and I will be back to eating normally. I don't think a few weeks of shakes during the day will hurt anyone as I will be getting ALL my protein. Then a healthy dinner. :D

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Dana,

I really agree with Karen, and to be honest, (I'm not trying to be mean) but it’s not great nutritional advice and goes against what the OCC recommends. You can follow it, and you most likely will lose weight, but it’s not something we can sustain long term. Part of what I am doing is learning how to eat right long term for good health. Drinking 4 to 5 of these a day, that’s also (if I remember right) up to 100 grams of protein a day. This seems a bit high to me. (And I use to be like Karen, I had my one protein shake in the AM since I had a hard time eating solids in the morning).

And my son’s a personal trainer and use to do things like this, but later took another class on nutrition (which I pushed him to do) and stopped it, he is focused on real food, not to the extent of what I am, but he’s getting there and I’m really proud of him.

Based on something that happened to a family member I have cut Splenda completely out of my diet. (And after learning more from Dr. Mark, I completely believe it was a great idea). And, you wont find Splenda in Dr. Weil’s restaurant, there’s a reason for that.

We don't eat that much so I eat real sugar, honey or anything natural in small amounts. There are going to be some pretty cool studies coming out in the next few years about what all the fake food is doing to us - most likely a big culprit in what is making people in the States obese. Let alone what all the chemicals are doing to our bodies. Sorry if I sound like I'm on a soap box, I really do want to help.

http://www.womentowomen.com/nutritionandwe...ss/splenda.aspx

We all have to make our own decisions and whatever you decide you’ll have our support.

Take care,

Lisa

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Dana,

I really agree with Karen, and to be honest, (I'm not trying to be mean) but it’s not great nutritional advice and goes against what the OCC recommends. You can follow it, and you most likely will lose weight, but it’s not something we can sustain long term. Part of what I am doing is learning how to eat right long term for good health. Drinking 4 to 5 of these a day, that’s also (if I remember right) up to 100 grams of protein a day. This seems a bit high to me. (And I use to be like Karen, I had my one protein shake in the AM since I had a hard time eating solids in the morning).

And my son’s a personal trainer and use to do things like this, but later took another class on nutrition (which I pushed him to do) and stopped it, he is focused on real food, not to the extent of what I am, but he’s getting there and I’m really proud of him.

Based on something that happened to a family member I have cut Splenda completely out of my diet. (And after learning more from Dr. Mark, I completely believe it was a great idea). And, you wont find Splenda in Dr. Weil’s restaurant, there’s a reason for that.

We don't eat that much so I eat real sugar, honey or anything natural in small amounts. There are going to be some pretty cool studies coming out in the next few years about what all the fake food is doing to us - most likely a big culprit in what is making people in the States obese. Let alone what all the chemicals are doing to our bodies. Sorry if I sound like I'm on a soap box, I really do want to help.

http://www.womentowomen.com/nutritionandwe...ss/splenda.aspx

We all have to make our own decisions and whatever you decide you’ll have our support.

Take care,

Lisa

I understand what both of you are saying, but I also know ME. I know that I only have 2.5 in my band and I AM NOT getting an un fill. I am not puking up liquids, I am fine. All of my fills have loosened. I will not pay 250.00 to get an unfill 1 week later when ALL of you say, Can you keep down liquids? The answer is YES I can, and I can eat later in the day, so a fill is not an option....that is crazy.

ALSO...Before the lapband, I was all about eating meat. 100 grams of protein was NOTHING. a 3.5 oz serving of steak has 30 grams of protein & I would easily eat a 12 oz steak. So, I think I can handle more protein.

As far as going AGAINST the OCC, I don't look at it that way. I have followed all the rules & my weight loss has been great! But I have freakin plateaued! And right now, I can't eat solids before 2 or 3 pm, not alot of options. So, sorry you feel I am going against my Doctor, I personally don't think Dr. Ortiz would feel that way if I called him up.

So, thanks for your opinions, but I think I will be fine for the next few weeks as I give it time to loosen.

I am not one who believes I have to give up Splenda and go All Organic at this stage in my life.

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I understand what both of you are saying, but I also know ME. I know that I only have 2.5 in my band and I AM NOT getting an un fill. I am not puking up liquids, I am fine. All of my fills have loosened. I will not pay 250.00 to get an unfill 1 week later when ALL of you say, Can you keep down liquids? The answer is YES I can, and I can eat later in the day, so a fill is not an option....that is crazy.

ALSO...Before the lapband, I was all about eating meat. 100 grams of protein was NOTHING. a 3.5 oz serving of steak has 30 grams of protein & I would easily eat a 12 oz steak. So, I think I can handle more protein.

As far as going AGAINST the OCC, I don't look at it that way. I have followed all the rules & my weight loss has been great! But I have freakin plateaued! And right now, I can't eat solids before 2 or 3 pm, not alot of options. So, sorry you feel I am going against my Doctor, I personally don't think Dr. Ortiz would feel that way if I called him up.

So, thanks for your opinions, but I think I will be fine for the next few weeks as I give it time to loosen.

I am not one who believes I have to give up Splenda and go All Organic at this stage in my life.

Hi Dana,

I think you are doing great!!--I, too cannot eat solids until the 3 or 4 pm. I'm over the Atkins shakes right now, are the muscle milk ones any good for pre-made (I see them at Costco)? So, since the protein powder you recommend is 198 calories--are you just drinking one of those a day plus two muscle milks? How are you splitting that up?

Also, I cannot afford a trainer right now--but can you give me an example of your weekly workouts? I've been going the gym 4x a week doing 1/2 hour of cardio and alternating between upper and lower body, but I think I've been at a plateau-- probably because I also still have a problem with sugar and if this protein powder tastes like a milkshake, then I'm all for it! I would like to lose another 30 lbs. before my year mark in August.

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Bandiva, I appreciate your sharing what works for you on here. It helps to generate ideas, especially for folks (like myself) that have plateaued and need try new things to shake things up and find what works. What I'm seeing on here is that different things seem to work for different people, and one thing doesn't necessarily work for everyone. I myself have at times resorted to going back to all liquids for a day or two, but that's because I haven't reached my sweet spot yet and am still on all-willpower and little band-power. I still rely a lot on protein shakes (or bars) to ensure I get the protein in when I don't have time to prepare a meal or get enough protein from my solid meals. Right now I'm trying to avoid eating past 7pm (or no later than three hours before sleeping) and hopefully this will have an impact.

As for my choice of protein drinks, I personally like Whey Gourmet, it is only 120 calories and has 23g of protein.

-Vangirl

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I have lost 125lbs since August and I still drink a protein shake every morning. It keeps me full until lunch, and since I am working out 6 days a week, I feel like I need the extra protein even though I can eat about whatever I want, just not too much of it. I used the EAS protein powder from SAM's club for a few monthes and it tastes pretty good, but now I am using the Max Protein powder from GNC. It has the same amout of protein, but fewer calories and carbs. It also tastes alot better. It tastes good enough to drink even if it had no protein in it. The chocolate is almost too rich, so I mix 1 scoop of choc. and 1 scoop of vanilla. My trainer told me to stay away from the Muscle Milk, that it will put weight on you.

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Regular Muscle Milk, that is true It is high in calorie because it is intended for building muscles. But, the Musclie Milk Light (premades) is only 100 calories and can be used for weight managment & the Chocolate Milk flavor is fabulous. I buy them by the case at Costco.

I am using this Cookies in Cream to change things up and throw another taste in there. I also have not been getting enough calories in my day, another reason he said I probably plateued. He is not a lapband specialist, but he definitly knows what he is talking about with diet and exercise. He told me what I should be doing with all the working out I am doing etc.

I will not have more than one of the Syntha 6 per day because it is higher in calories. I have room in my day to allow for the extra calories of one though....

I am doing Heavy Weight Circuit Training at a slow pace. Meaning, in the past when I do the machines I just grab them and and do them as fast as I can. This trainer has taught me to take 20 seconds on a rep. And we do each machine for 3 minutes 15 secnds. For instance if you are doing the leg press, take a complete 10 seconds to push it down and 10 seconds to bring it all the way back up. This way your muscles are constantly ripping and not getting a break. He said you will get faster results. So far, I am really impressed!!!! It is a very hard work out, I am really pushing my self to get the best out of it.

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Dana, you are doing AWESOME!!!! Keep up the excellent job.

I too cannot eat in the mornings. For some reason I slime on EVERYTHING in the mornings. So, I drink a protein shake. Everyone is different and I appreciate you sharing what works for you. Some of us have the same issues and some of us don't but that's what we are all here for, to help one another out and to bounce ideas off of one another.

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Dana, you are doing AWESOME!!!! Keep up the excellent job.

I too cannot eat in the mornings. For some reason I slime on EVERYTHING in the mornings. So, I drink a protein shake. Everyone is different and I appreciate you sharing what works for you. Some of us have the same issues and some of us don't but that's what we are all here for, to help one another out and to bounce ideas off of one another.

Actually, I like this post best; this is exactly what this forum is about. Different opinions but everyone talking about, and taking out of it what works best for them. Without getting personal or doing the High School thing. I always tell people that we're a large group with differing opinions - but that's what makes us so damn cool.

So awesome post, thank you for your reply.

Best,

Lisa

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Actually, I like this post best; this is exactly what this forum is about. Different opinions but everyone talking about, and taking out of it what works best for them. Without getting personal or doing the High School thing. I always tell people that we're a large group with differing opinions - but that's what makes us so damn cool.

So awesome post, thank you for your reply.

Best,

Lisa

Lisa,

I agree! No problems here. Thanks for voicing your opinion. I will let everyone know how I am doing. I definitely don't want to live on liquids forever. I like food too much. lol

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Have any of you tried the "5-day pouch test"? It is five days on liquids to sort of reset your pouch, especially if the "no restriction" demon surfaces.

5-day Pouch Test

I have done this and it helps with refocusing on the "tool" aspect of the lap-band.

(Dana--I think you're great! Always posting something worth thinking about. Thanks for doing that)

Diana

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Have any of you tried the "5-day pouch test"? It is five days on liquids to sort of reset your pouch, especially if the "no restriction" demon surfaces.

5-day Pouch Test

I have done this and it helps with refocusing on the "tool" aspect of the lap-band.

(Dana--I think you're great! Always posting something worth thinking about. Thanks for doing that)

Diana

Hi Diana,

just curious about this test. First can you add veggies? Next, can you have what you had on day one to day 4? Is it a progressive thing where you add to the day before or is it strict "only that on that day?" You know what I mean?

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Hey Karen,

Thanks for your concern for me, means a lot!

Well, I am working out alot so I am burning calories. BUT, I am only going to have this brand in the am before I leave the house. It is higher in calories, 198 per serving, 54 from fat. The Muscle Milk premades are 100 calories. I have tried eggs, oatmeal in the morning and on about the second or third bite I get the tightness in my chest. I had my third fill last monday, and I do not think it is too tight because by 3pm I can eat solid foods. If I have any removed I will be back where I was and I know I need restriction. As long as my food stays down, and I can eat comfortably after 2 or 3 pm, I am fine with that for the time being. I would like to get some more weight off. I can also tell my band has loosened since last Monday after the fill. So, I am going to do as he suggests and do the liquids during the day for 3 weeks, maybe by then I can get back to my protein for bfast. I am going to try 3 drinks instead of 4 though, I thought it may be excessive to have 4. (I just dont think I will be that hungry)

You are doing awesome Dana. Here are some guidelines I received from my fill dr. It sounds as though you are doing exactly what you should be doing.

EMERGENT/URGENT BAND PROBLEMS

What is the difference between Emergent, Urgent and Normal band problems?

EMERGENT: Harsh vomiting (different than pb’ing), unable to swallow saliva or any fluid. You need to go to the Emergency Room and have them give you an IV to hydrate you. You need to tell them you have a lap band and need to have a fluoroscopy to see if it has slipped or you are closed off due to swelling. You need to take your surgeons phone number with you so they can call and talk to him.

Dehydration: symptoms include dizziness, low blood pressure, disorientation, not able to make decisions appropriately. If someone else thinks you are in need help, you probably are because you are too ill to make that decision. It takes more than 24 hours to become dehydrated.

URGENT: When you have frequent throwing up 3-4 or more times per week, you need to be seen by your fill clinic to get a bit of saline removed. If you have heartburn or reflux, you need to be on over the counter Prilosec twice a day, possibly remove a bit of saline from your band. If you let it go on, you risk slippage of the band. After you have a bit taken out, stay on liquids for 1 week, mushy for 1 week, introduce solids slowly.

If your band slams shut after you have had a fill, you should return to your clinic for a bit of unfill. Don’t let it go on too long, you risk slipping your band and dehydration. This prevents and ER visit.

Normal Problems: You can’t eat solids in the morning. Try drinking something hot. This may open your band up and allow you to eat. If you can’t eat in the mornings, try going on liquids for 3 days, then start eating breakfast, larger lunch, smaller dinner. Sometimes this will reset your eating habits. If you just can’t eat in the morning, but can eat later in the day, go ahead and drink a protein drink in the morning to get your protein in. We normally say no liquid proteins, but once in awhile is ok. The whole process behind the band is to eat our protein in solid form, not liquids.

Pb’ing, yakking, tossing your cookies: Are you eating too fast? Not chewing enough? Taking too big a bite? Swallowing hot things too soon? Maybe you need to coat your meat with BBQ sauce or something to help it go down. Try eating with a baby spoon to make sure you are taking smaller bites.

IF you have the flu: You should be fine, but if you are throwing up too much, some fluid out of you band would help. You can drink flat 7-up, gatoraid, apple juice, whatever, forget the calories, just stay hydrated.

WHEN TO CALL YOUR DOCTOR:

Get an unfill if you can’t swallow your spit.

Get an unfill if you can’t eat regular food.

Get an unfill if you are having heartburn or reflux.

Call your doctor emergently if you are throwing up blood. You might have a tear or rupture in your esophagus. Be sure to tell them you have a band. They may think you have an abdominal problem. Not all problems are related to the band. Just make sure they have the information anyway.

Go to the ER if you haven’t been able to drink any liquids for 24 hours.

Call your surgeon with any concerns.

DO NOT LIVE WITH THROWING UP FOR MORE THAN A FEW DAYS. THE WEIGHT YOU ARE LOSING IS WATER, NOT FAT!

This is not the way to lose weight. You are depleting yourself of needed vitamins and nutrients your body needs to survive.

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You are doing awesome Dana. Here are some guidelines I received from my fill dr. It sounds as though you are doing exactly what you should be doing.

EMERGENT/URGENT BAND PROBLEMS

What is the difference between Emergent, Urgent and Normal band problems?

EMERGENT: Harsh vomiting (different than pb’ing), unable to swallow saliva or any fluid. You need to go to the Emergency Room and have them give you an IV to hydrate you. You need to tell them you have a lap band and need to have a fluoroscopy to see if it has slipped or you are closed off due to swelling. You need to take your surgeons phone number with you so they can call and talk to him.

Dehydration: symptoms include dizziness, low blood pressure, disorientation, not able to make decisions appropriately. If someone else thinks you are in need help, you probably are because you are too ill to make that decision. It takes more than 24 hours to become dehydrated.

URGENT: When you have frequent throwing up 3-4 or more times per week, you need to be seen by your fill clinic to get a bit of saline removed. If you have heartburn or reflux, you need to be on over the counter Prilosec twice a day, possibly remove a bit of saline from your band. If you let it go on, you risk slippage of the band. After you have a bit taken out, stay on liquids for 1 week, mushy for 1 week, introduce solids slowly.

If your band slams shut after you have had a fill, you should return to your clinic for a bit of unfill. Don’t let it go on too long, you risk slipping your band and dehydration. This prevents and ER visit.

Normal Problems: You can’t eat solids in the morning. Try drinking something hot. This may open your band up and allow you to eat. If you can’t eat in the mornings, try going on liquids for 3 days, then start eating breakfast, larger lunch, smaller dinner. Sometimes this will reset your eating habits. If you just can’t eat in the morning, but can eat later in the day, go ahead and drink a protein drink in the morning to get your protein in. We normally say no liquid proteins, but once in awhile is ok. The whole process behind the band is to eat our protein in solid form, not liquids.

Pb’ing, yakking, tossing your cookies: Are you eating too fast? Not chewing enough? Taking too big a bite? Swallowing hot things too soon? Maybe you need to coat your meat with BBQ sauce or something to help it go down. Try eating with a baby spoon to make sure you are taking smaller bites.

IF you have the flu: You should be fine, but if you are throwing up too much, some fluid out of you band would help. You can drink flat 7-up, gatoraid, apple juice, whatever, forget the calories, just stay hydrated.

WHEN TO CALL YOUR DOCTOR:

Get an unfill if you can’t swallow your spit.

Get an unfill if you can’t eat regular food.

Get an unfill if you are having heartburn or reflux.

Call your doctor emergently if you are throwing up blood. You might have a tear or rupture in your esophagus. Be sure to tell them you have a band. They may think you have an abdominal problem. Not all problems are related to the band. Just make sure they have the information anyway.

Go to the ER if you haven’t been able to drink any liquids for 24 hours.

Call your surgeon with any concerns.

DO NOT LIVE WITH THROWING UP FOR MORE THAN A FEW DAYS. THE WEIGHT YOU ARE LOSING IS WATER, NOT FAT!

This is not the way to lose weight. You are depleting yourself of needed vitamins and nutrients your body needs to survive.[/quote

Thank you LisaLaw! That is awesome!

Just an update, I felt my band was much looser yesterday. So, i had 2 pieces of bacon with no problem. Later in the day, I had a small chili. I was encouragedto be able to eat early in the day. TODAY, totally different story. I PB'd my bfast (which was at 11:00). It was so terrible. I do not want to go through that again. So, I will stick with drinks a while longer. (just like checking to see what I can handle)

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Hi Diana,

just curious about this test. First can you add veggies? Next, can you have what you had on day one to day 4? Is it a progressive thing where you add to the day before or is it strict "only that on that day?" You know what I mean?

I'm sorry, I misled with the "five days on fluids" thing. Here are the guidelines directly from the website::

Days One & Two: Liquid Protein

low-carb protein shakes, broth, clear or cream soups, sugar-free gelatin and pudding.

Day 3: Soft Protein

canned fish (tuna or salmon) eggs, fresh soft fish (tilapia, sole, orange roughy.

Day 4: Firm Protein

ground meat (turkey, beef, chicken, lamb), shellfish, scallops, lobster, fresh salmon or halibut.

Day 5: Solid Protein

white meat poultry, beef steak, pork, lamb, wild game

Good luck! I believe you are going to like the results when you give this plan an honest try. Kaye

She (Kaye Bailey--author of the website) doesn't give permission to eat veggies with the protein. I did the 5-days as she prescribes. The week does go by fast however. I hope this helps.

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Dana,

I was just wondering how you have been doing with your trainers advice. Did you do the protien shakes?

Carrie

Hey Carrie,

I have been doing protein shake most of the time as I am super super tight during the day. I am only down like 3 lbs. Pretty frustrating, but, I am keeping on! :) I have been doing 3 shakes a day and my evening meal most days. (I do a double for bfast) There have been a few days that I felt loose, so I did chili or eggs or turkey bacon for lunch. When I do that I obviously don't have a shake. But, I would say 85% of the time, I am all liquid before 3pm.

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Hey Dana!

I did the "kick-start challenge" and I lost 4.8 lbs. I think it was because I drank no less than 3 Adkins Advantage shakes per day. I am going to try this protein powder, mainly because of your endorsement (thank you!), and because it is whey protein and not soy. I seriously had gas pain last week, and I am sure it is because of the soy in the shakes (especially the chocolate ones--waaah). I love the Adkin's shakes because they are delicious and pre-made, so the convenience of being able to take them to work is another reason why I chose them.

Thanks again for sharing the information. Can't wait to hear about a good loss this week.

Diana

plssssssss tell me what is kick start challenge

thanks

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